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oh boy there's a lot to get to for some

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reason i went down a rabbit hole of

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investigating and looking into um

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a heavy metal guy

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his name is uh matt pike

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uh he's a the lead singer and guitar

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player of a band called high on fire and

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he's been around for about uh

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22 years playing in high and fire before

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that he was in a uh another band called

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sleep and npr did this giant article on

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him like npr did this like whole profile

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on this underground metal guy matt pike

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uh his band won a grammy a few years ago

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and so they did this incredibly long

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profile on matt pike picking him apart

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um and uh

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they dedicated i would say over half the

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article

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trying to call him

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uh an anti-semite

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and because of matt pike references

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david ike

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people

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conspiracy theory they attached that to

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magpie matt pike

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and so matt pike is like trying to have

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to answer for

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uh reading david ike books and talking

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about conspiracy theories and all the

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weird kind of things that uh he writes

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about in his music like he writes about

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ufos and all the crazy paranormal stuff

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that we talk about he just writes songs

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about it

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and instead of talking about like how he

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um goes on tour or maybe some of the

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problems he had in his own life they

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made they mainly focused on david ike

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and conspiracy theories for this npr

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article and i found it uh perturbing

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because i've seen high in fire probably

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eight times um i've interacted with matt

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pike a little bit uh he seems like a

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nice enough guy

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and and i don't pick up any sort of like

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maliciousness from him he's just like a

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stoner guitar guy who likes to talk

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about weird conspiracies and paranormal

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stuff that's it he's not pushing belief

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systems but npr decided to write

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what amounts i believe to

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a hit piece

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and uh

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i'll bring this up on screen and i know

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there's a lot of other news to get to

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but for whatever reason went down this

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rabbit so i'll bring this up on screen

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and uh

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it's titled can matt pike face the music

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and it starts off uh

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pretty pretty even-handedly so in the

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fall of 2008 uh pike's heavy metal trio

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of nearly a decade

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more than that uh but uh high and fire

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was slotted to warm up for the band

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opith uh opeth a swedish pro uh

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progressive metal band

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on a three months uh three months sweep

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through the united states and europe so

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it goes on and on they they kind of open

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to kind of give a little background on

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pike but then npr launches into this

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kind of tirade against the conspiracy

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theories and pike

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and so i just picked out a few little

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paragraphs here uh about this and this

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kind of goes to how the mainstream media

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decides to

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reinvent the conspiracy they they they

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decide to frame it their own way and

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then attach it to somebody

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so it starts off here uh in early

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february of this year i called pike to

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continue our conversation

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um that we started earlier

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a few weeks ago about his debut solo

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album he answered with something like a

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gruff whimper

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they canceled me on band camp dude pike

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said from his home in portland not

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bothering with a greeting can you

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uh actually i could two days earlier the

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british music website

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uh had published an extensive interview

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with pike after 30 years of being

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metals most riveting guitar player in

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adore and adored characters

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uh first in stoner metal trio sleep then

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in hind fire pike now 49 had finished an

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lockdown and the future

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uh of of high on fire and what he's done

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2010 but then he goes on to say about

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lizard people

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uh interview uh by our profile they

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immediately attached david ike to the

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lizard person and then calling david ike

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anti-semitic for saying

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that these reptilians are ruling the

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the reptiles as being directly applied

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being referenced to there's an ultra

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wealthy elite that ruled this world

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and of those elite david ike believes

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whenever you say anybody controls

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anything because my dad always makes

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i i reference real things like operation

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northwoods and stuff like that and he's

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like oh so you think the jews are behind

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it's just like that's the default right

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if you don't if you criticize soros you

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hate the jews yeah you know what i mean

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it's like a very short leap it's not

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even a leap it's like a tiptoe

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yeah it and so like i npr reframed david

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talking i never heard anything like that

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world is is is controlled and operated

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it's it's all negative you know like

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it's it's all it's all one group of

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people it's all this race i've never

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biopic but profile uh it goes on to say

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entertain a lot of these ideas and that

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fascinating and he he's never picked up

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writings but then in the next few

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reiterate that over and over again they

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was used to create more wars and to rain

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down even more authoritarian control

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over us uh and then they they tried to

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conspiracy theories have been debunked

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goes like they're like popular mechanics

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and stuff like that um but it i was as

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fascinated with how much time

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going down and trying to pigeonhole

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uh matt pike and so i i pulled some

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love of conspiracy theories and

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spirituality and paranormal and just

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talking about all these things and uh

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a lot of people in their belief system

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is not in the best shape so here we go

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i'm matt pike you're watching loudwire

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are you excited for election hell to

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don't even know if it's gonna happen

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we may not make it

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so this is this took place this

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interview took place in 2016.

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the election 2016 trump just got in

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litters a lot of anxiety and here's the

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we need a french revolution

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you know i'm telling you man

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our media is [\h__\h] our

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our politicians are [\h__\h] our

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government's [\h__\h] the whole world

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hates us because of what all these

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[\h__\h] douchebags have been doing it

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all goes back to the rothschilds and

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rockefellers you know the

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zionist movement which is you know the

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rothschilds and the rockefellers are the

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gentiles that are in cahoots that own

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all the [\h__\h] world's money yeah and

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it's so weird that you know and they're

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all pedophile like satanists that run

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around and they're not really what they

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say they are you know but that's their

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little front yeah so

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i don't know i find that

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we're due for a [\h__\h] big [\h__\h] storm

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and i think it's going to get cleared

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out because i think

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other powers that be seeing what's going

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on in the world they can't let us keep

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going down this path you know i believe

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there's going to be an intervention i

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don't know if it's aliens i don't know

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it's god i don't know if it's anything

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everybody wants to put a tinfoil hat on

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my head but look around there's

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something [\h__\h] wrong and there's

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something ain't something right and

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planet x is on its way in and everybody

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knows that it's fact now even nasa

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admits it and everybody wanted to call

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me [\h__\h] crazy then hey call me crazy

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when it happens it's not my fault that

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you didn't [\h__\h] listen or [\h__\h]

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plan on it you know

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or find some [\h__\h] way to

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you know come to peace with your

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you look at it we're headed down a

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horrible road you know and we're we're

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all face to face with each other and

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we're not we're not accepting that we're

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all part of each other's deal

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it's not that far off from like a lot of

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conspiracy theories that have been going

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about this kind of stuff and npr decided

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to pick up on it but then i found this

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other little piece from from matt pike

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he's not telling you what to believe and

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he doesn't even know if anything that

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he's reading

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is absolutely correct about the world

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you know he's a little wishy-washy about

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it but he seems pretty diplomatic okay

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uh chupacabra i'm sorry go ahead joe i

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think he seems humble

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right and where is the lie

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you know what i mean like everybody

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wants like kyle rittenhouse in prison

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because we watched that trial but glenn

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maxwell like whatever happened epstein

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whatever happened like you got the all

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the big names and it's like all we care

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about is johnny depp and the poop on his

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bed like what is happening here

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justice does not exist

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and he's getting at that and uh

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he's like he's not like the biggest

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musician you know he is you know he

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draws a good crowd with high on fire

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when he tours uh they put put up great

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records if you like metal and like if

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you're into motorhead and black sabbath

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you'd probably like high and fire which

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i do um

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but it it does impact like so when they

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write like a hit piece like an npr

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that's a pretty big publication for

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people that are curious about music or

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just kind of what's going on and so that

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filters down and it does like affect

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people at that at this level

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when he's trying to put out something

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like on band camp where no one was

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touring during covid so he put out stuff

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and then if band can't kick you off well

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that's a revenue stream

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uh it it it really impacts people

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and so when they misrepresent

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they the the media misrepresents what he

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actually is saying or saying jews yes

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joe

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when they when they misrepresent what

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his belief systems are if he even knows

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and attaches that to him to cause some

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sort of backlash that's a problem um

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they did quote him a lot in the npr

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article about free speech and um in his

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right to kind of just explore these

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different topics and write about them

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not even sure if he believes them or not

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but be able to explore these topics in

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an artistic way and then write songs

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about him this is right and uh he's not

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telling what people what to believe and

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by the way if you listen to his songs

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it's sometimes very hard to even

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understand what he's singing about in

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the first place

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um

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but uh here's just the last little clip

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from matt pike talking about uh cryptids

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and so they had uh

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they were interviewing with them uh

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doing an interview interview with them

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this is a loud wire on youtube

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and uh apparently matt pike is always

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open to talking about weird stuff with

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them and said hey uh why don't you go

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ahead and rank all these cryptids like

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which is the the the the most plausible

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which is real versus what is the the

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most bs at the bottom and so they had

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him do like this uh this listing you

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know i'll bring this up on screen let's

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play a little bit of this here it is

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okay what about uh chupacabra

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oh

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my favorite creatures ever that's

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100

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fact they've found them in the chupa i

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know

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i like cheap

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i like i like selling i like the cheapo

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yeah

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more more the cheaper cobber you just

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suck the blood

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the goat the goat sucker right that's

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right how about lizard people

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um yeah there's several types

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there's ones that have been around since

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the dinosaurs and then there's ones that

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came from draco and then there's other

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ones and some of them live in the earth

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and uh this is what i've been told you

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know and it's about as believable as

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like christianity or buddhism or

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anything else you know it's like yeah

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everything's energy

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there's lots of beings lots of souls

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there's lots of dimensions there's lots

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of portals there's lots of everything i

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just need things to sing about and i

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don't care i don't even care i don't

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even know if i believe or not i just

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don't care anymore i just want to get

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through this [\h__\h]

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place

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if you had to rate the lizard people on

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the

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know i think i am a lizard

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partly

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and i think there's lizards that are

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like really sexy

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i think yeah

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definitely yeah

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but it's the creativity it's the

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creativity you gotta have creativity

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that's how i know i'm not all reptilian

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you know all weird like that

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what about slender man

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so i mean he's having a good time with

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it like he's obviously not like a hard

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ass like you have to believe this this

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is the way it is

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um

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they go on to like they they've asked

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him about the flat earth he's not into

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flat earth he doesn't buy flat earth

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um

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and he's he's mostly concerned about

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creating art and censorship and and this

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whole canceled culture which does happen

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um he doesn't like the media he thinks

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it's all uh bs or manipulated and he

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basically just wants to be able to play

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guitar and

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have fun and then talk about all this

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and but i guess in this world now you

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can't have any sort of ambiguity you

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can't you you gotta come down on the

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side of mainstream science

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or

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you're completely right wing and they go

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into that in this he he actually

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references in the npr articles like i've

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been talking about this stuff for a long

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time now people call me right wing just

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because i don't buy into all this other

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stuff and

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and uh quote uh it's a quote here it's a

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dangerous game uh some people are

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playing now but once you get shut once

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you shut everyone down they're going to

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come after you and shut down you and

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your ideology

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so

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uh i don't know what that means but he's

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he's

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what i mean i remember when you were

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doing the show and i rolled my eyes

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about the bigfoots and the aliens and

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all that stuff because i'm you know it's

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like scully

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uh too

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you know what i mean like how come

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nobody can get a picture of these

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bigfoots and [\h__\h]

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and chupacabras if they're so real but

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isn't it a more fun world if they're

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there and you just haven't been proven

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wrong yet or right yet like i don't know

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i think it's much better to have

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possibilities than to say definitively

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like [\h__\h] you know

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the journey it's uh sometimes it's about

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the process it's about the journey of

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discovery and looking for stuff it's why

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i watch

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uh shows like skinh skinwalker ranch

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which you know cretchet

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is not a big fan of of some of the

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experiments they do on there

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but i find it to be entertaining um and

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i watch expedition bigfoot where they

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shoot it like it's it's a blair witch

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project and everyone's it's a handheld

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camera and you're yelling at the screen

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the screen to like just [\h__\h] turn

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around or set up some trail cams for

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crying out loud but it is there's a

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there's an element of fun about it um it

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opens up possibilities and it's a

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creative fun thought experiment about

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what if these creatures are out there

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and what do they do what are their lives

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i'm curious what are their favorite tv

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shows

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what's their favorite color i we're done

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asking about bigfoot's dick what's his

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favorite we'll never be done asking that

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but give us an email at ourbitcommon

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gmail.com check out obdmport.com